Chris:
It’s really hard to be open to things we can’t see, but sometimes you just have to take that leap and if you do, it could really change your life. Join us.
Chris:
All right. Welcome back to the Get Overit podcast. I am your host, Dr. Christopher Fasano. Before we begin, I want to mention that the easiest way to receive new episodes of the Get Overit podcast is to directly subscribe. You can do that on Apple Podcasts, Spotify. If you prefer to watch the show, you can watch it on YouTube and you could subscribe on YouTube. If you really enjoy the show, make sure you tell a friend and leave us a review, a five star review, it’ll really help the show move up in the ranks, so more people can find this show and we can help each other get over it.
Chris:
Okay, so let’s get onto our show today. Our guest today is Christine Seebold, a psychic medium. Now I’ve always been fascinated with this and this world of mediums and for those that have listened to the show previously, on a previous episode, I told a story about my encounter with a medium and how that encounter really, really had a serious, profound impact on my life as a man of science who never believed in any of this, that encounter really threw me into a different direction and is really, really, I think about that to this day.
Chris:
So I’m really excited for the conversation. I want to welcome Christine to the show. So welcome aboard.
Christine:
Thank you. Thank you for having me.
Chris:
No problem. I’m excited to talk to you. All right. So let’s start with who you are. Let’s give a little background. So why don’t you introduce yourself to the audience, so a little bit about where you’re from and tell us a little bit about what you do and this world of psychic medium what it is, what it means and what you do.
Christine:
Okay. So, so my name is Christine Seebold/Walrath, because I got married in July.
Chris:
Congratulations, by the way.
Christine:
Thank you. Thank you. And right now I live outside of Saratoga Springs.
Chris:
Okay.
Christine:
I have a store in Clifton Park called the Mind, Body, Spirit Center where I do my reading sides out of but it’s also a holistic store. So we sell crystals and things like that. Things that can help people in the store, especially to get through the tough times that we have going on right now. This started for me when I was two years old.
Chris:
Two years old, really?
Christine:
Two years old, two years old. I used to talk to people that weren’t there. If I didn’t have my grandmother, I don’t know what I would’ve done because she believed me. She believed me. And I told her things that there’s no way I would’ve known them, told her about an accident that happened outside our house just before the truck and the car collided together and I was up on the couch. Yeah. Yeah. I was like two and a half, see the truck, see the car. Boom. And the truck slid hit the car and the car shot off the road and my grandmother’s like, get out of the window.
Chris:
Now looking back, sorry. I mean, I know you got more to tell.
Christine:
That’s okay.
Chris:
Looking back on that do you, in other words, you didn’t know then, right? You probably didn’t put two and two together that you’ve sort of had a predictive where there was something, no, right? So you just kept having those experiences, also I want to just throw this out there as a parent, I have a nine year old, kids say crazy things when they’re younger like they’ll say stuff and they’ll be like, oh, they’ll have friends or they’ll have things and a lot of people will just like brush it off or whatever, right. And I’m wondering, and maybe I’m getting ahead of myself, I’m wondering if children are more accessible to that world because they haven’t experienced the negatives of life. So they’re more open. Do do you believe that?
Christine:
Yes they are and no one’s told them they’re crazy.
Chris:
Right. Exactly.
Christine:
No one’s said like, no… Because parents come to me all the time and like, look, my child is talking about her great-grandmother that liked apples and she’s telling me how her favorite color and all this other stuff. And the mom is like, what do I do? I go ask her what they’re saying? Just ask her simply say like, what is she saying? Ask if there’s a message for you. But it starts when we’re little, it starts right around two, three years old. Okay. And they’ll come out with stuff and parents, I get text messages and calls all the time. There’s my child is spot on. I’m like, well, they’re a medium. It’s up to you. If you say to that kid, stop it. Blah, blah, blah.
Chris:
Right, this is whatever, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Christine:
Child is going to shut down.
Chris:
Right.
Christine:
Or, and then sometimes you see teenagers with a lot of issues and they don’t know how to handle it because it started at two years old and the parents were like, you’re crazy. Da, da, da, da, da. And so the child becomes very depressed and inverted.
Chris:
Mm. So now-
Christine:
Okay. And then-
Chris:
Go ahead. You finish, finish. Go ahead.
Christine:
Well, and then you have a child that goes through this experience all by themselves and they have no help. They have no outlet.
Chris:
Okay. So you started to do this, right? And you had someone in your life that was not telling you, you’re nuts, you’re crazy, right. So you had someone who was believing you, so that reinforced this in you, I imagine. So tell me about the progression. So as you grew, tell me a little bit more about your experiences and how it progressed. Was it always there or did you go through times where it was sort of not present and came back? Tell me a little bit about how it evolved.
Christine:
Well, it doesn’t go away. You can try to shut it down, okay, and you learn to shut it down because if you don’t shut it down, you’ll go stark raving mad.
Chris:
Right. It’ll consume you, right? Yeah.
Christine:
Yeah. You’ll just get messages all day long. And I want to go to the grocery store and shop. I don’t want to grocery store and see 20 people in the store, but 300 people walking around with them. And we all have different, like some people see, smell, taste. I have all of them. I have every single clear. So when you come for a reading with me, I’ll be like, I taste bananas. Do you like bananas or have a potassium problem? I’ll tell you, I smell cigarettes smoke, you know what I’m saying?
Chris:
Right, right, right.
Christine:
I’ll say I’m having pain in my stomach. Did he have something wrong with his liver or his kidneys? So when you go to a medium or a psychic and also what kind of training have they had too, you know what I mean? So, I forgot what the question was, I’m sorry.
Chris:
No no, I was just saying, we were talking about the concept of turning it off and you were saying, you don’t turn it off, where I was going with that was you started at a young age with these experiences and then as you grew, did the experiences get more complex? I’m curious to know how it evolved as you got older?
Christine:
Yeah. Well, what happens is they start and then they continue. So, I would be in bed and I would have visitors I would have a man or a woman standing in front of me wanting to talk to me and I was scared. So I would get up and run into my grandmother’s room and right in between the covers, scared shaking she’s like, what’s going on? I’m like, they’re back [inaudible 00:06:55]. So you go through that for years and then my grandmother was psychic also so she was like, we have to get you some help for this. So then I learned how to meditate and I learned how to take control. And it’s basically saying to a spirit, please leave me alone right now. I don’t want to do this. I don’t want to talk to you. And it’s just taking back control.
Chris:
So it’s not being like… So I got to imagine there’s a progression from being freaked out, right? Because I have to imagine that’s a scary thing. You don’t really know what that means yet. And then I guess, as you begin to accept that it’s not bad. It becomes, how do you deal with it on a day to day? How do you control the influx is right, so that’s what you’re saying. It’s like, you have to be able to just like anything with regular humans, normal humans, like I’m not ready right now for this conversation, you have to learn. So how do you do that? How does one learn how to do that?
Christine:
Well, people have different ways like Lisa Williams has a hat, she puts it on her head. They know that don’t bother her anymore. I just simply say, I’m done for the day. I do readings all day long and I start at usually 11:00 AM and I end at like five or six o’clock and when I tell them I’m done, it means I’m done. Please don’t come home with me. I’m done. That’s my deal. You can talk to who’s in front of me right now. And I always ask them, are you finished? Is there anything else you’d like to say? And then they come just like they go, it’s very quick. They come and then they just, they go, but it’s something you have to learn. And for somebody who’s walking around with this gift and they can’t tell them to go away, it’s terrible.
Chris:
Yeah. I imagine its got to be awful. It’s got to be so consuming. And I imagine it just can, it takes over your life. How could you, right. Because I got to imagine also if you channel that ability and that energy, if I’m a spirit, and I know there’s a way in, I’m probably going to try to funnel it all time, right?
Christine:
Yes, correct.
Chris:
So you have to have a way to, so you’re talking about training. Is there a professional training for someone of your, like yourself, if someone has this ability and they feel, where do they go? What do they do? There’s schools? And I’m not trying to belittle it. I’m serious. Is there a professional?
Christine:
No, no, no. There’s actually, I actually teach. So I have a lot of people that come to me for reading and they’re like, I think I have what you have. And I can’t control it, so I started teaching. So they come and I teach them A to Z from the beginning. And we talk about what’s happening and we do things to make it better like you can use just a simple deck of playing cards, shuffle up your cards. I tell people, take a black card, red card, hold them separately. See what color feels like, everything has a feeling, okay.
Christine:
And then you practice, you take a card, you turn it upside down. And then you start by guessing just the color then you go for is it red or black? And then you do the suite. And when you get really good, you could do it. You can do it. You’re going to start off 80% wrong, 20% right. When you’re done, you’ll be at like 70 or 80% right and 20% wrong. It’s just like playing the flute or an instrument. You have to use it and practice. But yes, hang on one second. Lisa Williams is a fantastic teacher. John Holland is a fantastic teacher. They have classes and I have classes and you sign up for the class and that’s how you learn. You learn, you have to learn how to do this properly.
Chris:
Do you think that there’s something unique about you or others that you have taught or seen that have this ability, or it’s not about the individual as so much it’s about their willingness to be open. I’ve always wondered that, can anybody be open to a spirit or to energies outside or does it take a certain being or a certain mind state that might be genetic or possibly individualistic? Where’s your stance on that? And what do you think?
Christine:
Well some people say you’re born with it. I think everybody’s born with this. Everybody has this. It’s a matter of do you tap into it. Do you tap into it. And some of us are just it’s overwhelmingly there. It’s overwhelmingly there. So I think everybody’s born with it.
Chris:
Right.
Christine:
I think some people can advance it and then I have people that come in class and they’re like closed off or they don’t want to talk to them and it’s like, well, why are you here? Because you’re trying to open that part of yourself, but everybody’s born with this. It’s a matter of if you choose to do it or not.
Chris:
Right. And I got to imagine too, like what we were talking about, it depends on the environment you were raised in or brought up in. I mean, if you’re in an environment that was more open, conducive to you, allowing you to say these things and not be made to feel like you’re nuts or are crazy, then you’re probably going to be able to propagate and continue to grow that, right. So I think like you said, I like to believe, I never was a person as a scientist trained, I never was a person to believe in any of this. And then I had a death in the family, a really tragic death, my wife’s mother died suddenly. And so you start looking for answers and you start looking, when that finality starts to hit in, starts to settle, you really start to want to believe that there’s more out there and it’s not as final as it feels.
Chris:
And we had these really incredible experiences and it shifted me. And I started to think to myself as someone who pretends to be a smart person, for me to believe that this is all there is, anything that I’m seeing is the only thing that exists is crazy to actually think that way. It’s actually, in my opinion, I started to, I don’t know what’s out there and I’m not going to begin to pretend like I know, but for me to suggest that the only thing that exists are the things that I see, I’m well beyond that now. And I truly believe, I believe in energy. I’ve always believed in energy because I feel energy when people are near me, I feel different energies. And I like to believe that our energy goes back into the world when you pass and now it’s out in the space and that energy can be tapped into. And so that’s how I view that. Is that right?
Christine:
Yes.
Chris:
Okay.
Christine:
I would tell you that’s correct. To me, it’s dimensional. I feel like it’s dimensional. It’s like when you leave here, you go into a different dimension, okay. And then what happens is they can go back and forth and some of them are good at it. Some of them can move things around on, we’ve seen spoons move and things fly across the room and some of them are good at manipulating things. And then some of them will just maybe give you a cardinal or something so that you know or you might hear your name called like in the middle of the night and you’re like, oh my gosh, what? You know what I mean? But you hear it. But to me it’s dimensional. So we can’t go over there, but they can come over here.
Christine:
So the word medium means they vibrate up here because you’re talking about energy, right? And we’re down here. So when I sit with someone, I have to raise myself up here. So I vibrate with them.
Chris:
Okay.
Christine:
So I have to raise myself high enough to vibrate with them, to hear them. And then when they’re done, I put myself back down and then they leave. But when they come into a room I can feel it. I can feel it. And the things that I tell people there is no way I would know. No way, absolutely none.
Chris:
Right.
Christine:
Because I tell personal, like seriously personal things.
Chris:
That’s the thing that blew me away. That’s the thing that really turned me into sort of this believer was that the story I told was my wife was grieving and she told me that she saw her mom upstairs in her house that she grew up in the doorway in a bathroom. And at first I was just like, okay she’s just like trying… And then when we went to the medium at random, she turned to her and said, by the way, your mom wanted me to tell you that was her in the doorway at your mom’s, I got the chills. I just got the chills. And I’m like, there is, now there is absolutely no way because the only person she told was me and the level of detail there in the house, in the doorway of her home but she said her son’s room.
Chris:
And she was in her son’s room, old bedroom. Those are three details that even if you were trying to make that up, why the detail would be so stupid for you to throw out there those sorts of details, right, because you would get those wrong unless you really knew.
Christine:
Right.
Chris:
And both of us just lost it because I’m like, wow, that’s it. You sealed it for me. No matter what you said before because I got to imagine you get things wrong, right, because energies are probably hard to translate all of the time correctly. So there might be some inaccuracies, but when it was right, it was just incredible. I couldn’t believe it.
Christine:
Yeah. Yep. But if I’m reading for somebody now I’m human. So they’re not up there going, let’s see if we can trick Chris, they’re up there going, I need to get a message to Chris.
Chris:
Right.
Christine:
I need you to get this right, okay. And so I see movies, I see movies. I see pictures. I hear things. I smell. I feel. So sometimes they’ll tell me something and I’ll say out loud, I don’t understand that. I need you to show me something else. So I might say, what does pink mean? And then the person, and I say, wait, hold on. And I’ll say to the spirit, I don’t understand you. Can you give me something else? And then they might show me their funeral, right. And then she’ll show me her lips. And I’m like, did you put pink lipstick on her? She doesn’t like pink lipstick. And the person’s like, oh my God, yeah, I was talking to her undertaker-
Chris:
And so that’s how you connected the pieces together. I see.
Christine:
Yeah. And I don’t give up. Some people read and they’re like, oh, I don’t understand and I’m like, no, no, we’re not doing that.
Chris:
Yeah.
Christine:
I’m going to understand everything this person is saying to me, it’s very, very important to me that when you leave you know you have spoken to your loved one. It’s a lot of responsibility and you have to take it extremely serious. You have to.
Chris:
I agree with you. I want to talk to you about that in a minute because people are coming to you in a very vulnerable state. A lot of people are really desperate for some things.
Christine:
Yep.
Chris:
So I want to talk about that, but I want to understand what is the cost to you energetically, emotionally. The picture you painted for me is like you got to go up there. So I’m imagining you have to expend this energy to sort of receive their energy. Then you’re transmitting their energy back into another human who is incredibly emotional and it could be very draining in that room, in that setting. There’s a lot of emotion, emotions can be draining. So at the end of the day are you just like emotionally wiped? Does it cost you a lot of energy? Talk to me about that.
Christine:
Some days worse than other. Some days like yesterday was hard for me. I’m usually good. My husband’s always like, I don’t know how you do it. People cry all day and I’m like, it’s good that they cry. It’s good that they get that out.
Chris:
Right. Kind of getting it out.
Christine:
Yeah. It’s important, you know what I mean? So yesterday was rough I came home and I was like and it depends because I don’t just connect with people. People also come with relationship problems and things like that. So I’m like a psychotherapist and a medium all at the same time. So usually by, because I work Monday through Saturday. So usually by Saturday I’m done. I just need Sunday to just kind of chill out.
Chris:
To just chill out.
Christine:
Chill out. Don’t want to talk to anybody. But yes it’s excruciating, this lady asked me to do a party once and we started at 12 noon, I left at 4:00 AM, 4:00 AM. I must have read for 30 people. And what happened was people were leaving the party and calling other people to come and get a reading. And she kept saying, oh, can you stay? Can you stay? I was down for four days, four days. I was like, don’t even talk to me.
Chris:
Oh my God.
Christine:
It’s a lot. It’s a lot of energy. And if the person is really bad off, now I’m reading for you, so I can’t burst into tears. I have to keep my composure.
Chris:
Right. Exactly.
Christine:
I’m not going to help you if I’m crying.
Chris:
Right.
Christine:
And then I can’t hear properly. So I’ve got to keep myself-
Chris:
Right. So you’re holding that in, right, but you’re human, so you feel, right, so I got to imagine that could build up after a while, right?
Christine:
By the end of the day, by the sixth or seventh reading sometimes people leave and I’ll weep or I’ll just sit there and I’ll just come to terms.
Chris:
You know what I’m reminded of is like psychologists and psychiatrists have to see other psychologists and psychiatrists by nature of their job because their job is to not, this subject of transference, right. That you should as a psychiatrist, you don’t ever want to transfer the feeling or the depression or the sadness onto, take it too personal so that you go home and now you’re sad because of the person’s sadness. So it’s important to get that out. Again, you must feel emotions transfer sometimes. What do you do to help? Do you meditate? You’re very in tune. What do you use as practice to sort of free yourself of some of this stuff? Do you find anything beneficial there? Do you see other mediums? Do you talk to anyone in your craft as well?
Christine:
I’ll only talk to another medium if I have something going on and I need to talk to somebody about something.
Chris:
Okay.
Christine:
Or like my sister passed of cancer in her back and she wouldn’t come through. It’s hard to talk to our own people. It’s very hard, so we have to go to somebody else, but I use singing bowls to kind of release the energy. I like to spin, so I’ll get on my spin bike. I’ll watch mindless television.
Chris:
Just stuff to get it. Yep.
Christine:
Just to do nothing. I’ll go to dinner with my husband and sometimes I’m the blank stare and he’s like, you okay? And then I’ll say, boy, this happened today and a lot of women pay for their husband’s reading and just drop them off and be like, here you go. And then I’m left with a person that’s like, oh, I don’t believe in any of this, but I’ll go ahead and sit down, go ahead and hear by yourself. And then usually I’ll come out with something like, do you have your mother’s punch bowl? Because she’s said that it’s in the box in the closet and it’s gold and then it’s got little pink flowers all around it and usually it’s like big tears.
Chris:
And then when you get it like that, when there’s one sort of connection, does that change the whole thing? For like, I’m sitting there, I’m slouched. I’m like whatever crystal, whatever, go ahead, go ahead and then you tell me that and I’m like, holy. Do you see them park up? And now they’re just like, well tell me.
Christine:
Immediately. And they’ll be like, wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, how do you know that? And then I’ll be like, okay. So she also wants you to know this and usually it’s very quick.
Chris:
Yeah.
Christine:
So by the time the hour’s done I get text messages from the wife, I can’t thank you enough, he’s a whole different person. And when that person leaves and generally they’re brought because they’re grieving so badly.
Chris:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). Right.
Christine:
I have a psychologist that sends people to me because I say, how do you find me? And there’s psychologists sending people to me because they’re like, maybe Chris can help you.
Chris:
Right. Yeah.
Christine:
And people, there is nothing more satisfying than someone that misses somebody and you can give them that person for one hour, just one hour.
Chris:
Right.
Christine:
Just one hour.
Chris:
That’s incredible. I’m so touched by it because it happened to me personally, it happened to my wife and I have to tell you and this goes along with what I wanted to talk to you about that vulnerability. You have this gift and this ability to give someone this semblance of hope and this sort of calm over something that’s so horrible to them. And so with our example, she was gone forever and that starts setting in and it’s a terrible feeling. There’s those stages of grieving and when you realize that this person’s never coming back, you’ll never be able to talk to them, you’ll never see again. When that starts to really hit you go dark and you could go real dark and deep.
Christine:
Yes.
Chris:
And you don’t want to go. So we did that and that one, that hour, it was really only like, in the hour, there’s probably like 15 minutes of real like you said, quick bites of information. It changed the way we think about it have thought about it forever. Because while we won’t see her again and it’s still final, we still feel like she’s around and we have tangible reasons to now understand why and it really, really did help. So that must make you feel so, I mean, it’s energetic. It costs you a lot right but it must be so satisfying to know that you can give people that.
Christine:
Yeah. And that was my deal when I started because I was in the car business for a long time and I left and I came to do this and that was my deal was as long as I’m helping, as long as I’m getting people the message, I will do this. When it stops or if it doesn’t, then I’ll stop but this is so very important. That’s why when I see people online and they’re fakes or whatever, I get really upset, really upset because-
Chris:
Because you’re taking advantage, right?
Christine:
Oh terrible. And they’re awful. They’re like vultures, you know what I mean? So this is not about money for me. This is not about money for me. This is about that kid that lost her grandfather that’s 14 years old and the mom says, can you give my daughter a reading? I’m like, yeah, with your permission.
Chris:
Right.
Christine:
And then I tell her the songs her and her grandpa used to listen to and how she used to paint his fingernails and things like that. And then they leave and the child leaves a whole different kid, a whole different kid.
Chris:
Yeah.
Christine:
That’s it right there. That’s it.
Chris:
So let’s talk, you said you were working in the car industry. Let’s talk about how you transitioned to your life, like your career and your life. That wasn’t always what you were doing. That’s what you said, right? You weren’t from the beginning in this as a medium and doing this as your soul sort of job or career.
Christine:
No, it was like-
Chris:
So talk to me about that progression.
Christine:
Okay. So I was like doing it, my mediumship stuff was like part-time. When I had my kids, I tried to kind of just not do this for a while. My kids came first, but you can’t and then-
Chris:
Right. It’s not like, you’re just-
Christine:
Yeah and then my first husband lives in a house that’s haunted, you know what I mean? It’s like, oh, this is just not cool. So I couldn’t get out of there fast enough because it was an old, old house and they had like the old gas pump out [crosstalk 00:25:23] old, old Victorian home.
Chris:
Yeah.
Christine:
So I worked in the car industry for about 20 years and the stress because I was a BDC director. So I had like 24 dealerships that I was responsible for and the stress, I got diabetes because I became extremely stressed out. So I started doing readings in the evenings when I got home from work and on the weekends and then a radio station had me on their radio and then they started promoting me. And I was a single mom, so I was working eight, nine hour days and then doing readings for people.
Christine:
And then what I did was I built up my business. I built up my business and I had within a year I had like 3, 4,000 clients and then something happened at work and I was like, I’m not doing this anymore. I just can’t, this is going to kill me and I’m a very moralistic person and I believe in due unto others, as you want done to you and it was like, and I cut my ties and I went home and I was like, okay, I got two teenage daughters, my own big house and everything and it’s like, I don’t want to go back into this again. And so I sat down and I prayed and I was like, okay, I’m going to do this full time. I’m going to open a store and I’m going to do this full time. And that’s exactly what I did and I haven’t looked back.
Chris:
So that was your Get Overit moment there.
Christine:
That was my serious Get Overit moment.
Chris:
I feel that there’s a lot of times with those sort of moments, especially in career, you sort of know in your heart where I’m at this isn’t for me, but it’s hard in your head to practice to make that decision. And then typically when I talk to people there is this event and something that happens that is the final push and it gets them out the door and in your case, that was it. Like you said, you did it. This is like an entrepreneurial lesson I feel like for me, for a lot of people too, is that people always say I have this passion and I really want to do this, but I have this nine-to-five that I don’t really like, what do I do?
Christine:
Yeah.
Chris:
And what I always say to them is keep doing it, do it at night, a few hours, keep it going.
Christine:
Yeah, exactly.
Chris:
You don’t have to just bail on what you’re doing right away. You do it, you build it and then you get it to a point where you’re comfortable and ready and then you go, and that sounds like exactly, you knew you had a talent, you knew you had a gift. You were doing it at night or trying to keep it going and then at the right moment, you seized on it, you got over it and now look at where you are and I imagine you could never contemplate ever going back to that job that you had.
Christine:
There is no way, no way, no way I would ever, I make more doing this.
Chris:
Yep.
Christine:
But I-
Chris:
And you make more personally, too, right? It’s more rewarding too, yeah.
Christine:
Yes. Yeah. I’m not screaming at people because they’re not showing up to work or not doing what they’re supposed to do.
Chris:
Right.
Christine:
And like, it’s every day, it doesn’t stop, you know what I mean?
Chris:
Yeah.
Christine:
So I built the team up and when I left them, I left them with a team that was making a lot of money for them. But I was just like, I was losing myself.
Chris:
Right.
Christine:
I was losing myself and I wasn’t being true to myself. And I had worked on building every, like I came out with my own deck of tarot cards, I did everything at night and on the weekends and then I had to do stuff with my teenage daughters too and any sports or whatever they were doing. But it was like, okay, I’m going to cram everything into like one year, going to be just overwhelmed for one year and then the payoff came.
Chris:
Yep. It’s interesting. I know you have this gift where you provide something of value to a person and that is reciprocal and it gives you that feeling of reward and you were doing something like you said in that job, that nine-to-five or whatever, and it wasn’t rewarding to you at all. And you had this gift and it was just sitting there, but however long it took or whatever the journey was, you got to where you are now and that is leveraging the gift so that you can help other people get through really dark times. And like nowadays, especially now, oh, it’s been so dark. I want to ask you, through this whole crap, these past two and a half years, have more people come to you? What has that been like? Have you seen a shift? Has it been steady? Has it been different?
Christine:
I’m usually booked out for a couple months. It’s been like that for like the past five years of my life. But what I saw a lot of was drug overdoses and suicide. I saw a lot of moms, a lot of families come in and they lost people to a, I saw a lot of it.
Chris:
Like a lot of addiction problems. Yeah.
Christine:
You have no idea.
Chris:
Yeah. Yeah.
Christine:
You have no idea. And nurses, nurses, nurses during the beginning of the pandemic were getting readings because they’re like, I don’t know how to handle this. And they were telling me what was really going on. And so I had a lot of that on my shoulders to where I got a little bit of anxiety because I know you empathic. I know you are. That’s why when you get close to people, you feel them because you’re an empath. So I’m super empathic. So I was taking it all in and I had to kind of like, okay, well, we’ll go take a couple months off from this and I didn’t do anything for a couple months during the pandemic.
Chris:
Really? Because it got you. Because you felt it. Yeah.
Christine:
Yeah. Yeah. Because I feel so deep and sometimes when people come in for a reading, I so can feel them or I so can feel the person on the other side. And when I’m doing my readings, I try to tell them, oh, and I always have paper, so I write when I’m doing readings, because what happens is so not only am I talking to the one or two people or seven or 500 people sitting in front of me, I’m talking to somebody here too, which comes through my, I hear through my right ear.
Christine:
So what happens is sometimes people are, and they’re talking. So I write-
Chris:
So you’re just jotting it down?
Christine:
Because I’m going to forget. Yeah. Because I’m hearing and they’re like, wait a second, don’t forget to tell her, oh yeah, she had the wedding ring turned into something and don’t forget to duh da. So here I am feverishly writing on a paper, waiting for that person to finish, but still have to pay attention to that person and be attentive. And then when they’re finished, I’m like, okay, hold on for one second and then I go through the whole list and they’re like, yeah.
Chris:
I see because you can’t control the inputs. So you just want to make sure that you’re jotting down all that stuff.
Christine:
I don’t want to miss anything.
Chris:
Right, you don’t want miss anything. Yep.
Christine:
Yeah. Because if they’re telling me something it’s important, that’s why I’m not a medium that’s going to give up. If you come to me and they’re trying to tell me something, I’m going to figure it out. I’m not just going to go, oh, I don’t understand what they’re saying.
Chris:
Right. So tell me this. How do you then connect that to the individual? So let’s say there was a group of like 30 people and now you’re getting all these inputs, right, but you don’t necessarily know who out in the 30 those inputs are for, right, because I imagine it’s not like name based.
Christine:
No, no. No, it depends.
Chris:
Depends?
Christine:
Sometimes if I’m doing a big group reading, I’ll walk, I’ll walk and I’ll walk right up to the person and I’ll be like, your dad’s here.
Chris:
Okay.
Christine:
He said, you didn’t let him have the TV he wanted and she looked at me, she goes, oh my God, just before he died, we were trying to pick out a flat screen for him and he wanted this one and I wanted that one. And I go, you got the one you wanted, right? She goes, yep. I go, he’s still pissed.
Chris:
So-
Christine:
And she was like.
Chris:
So you know it because you’re in front of them, is that what it is?
Christine:
Sometimes they’ll tell me like, go over there, see that girl right there, go over there.
Chris:
It guides you.
Christine:
Yes. So I’ll walk over to them. Or if I have seven people sitting in front of me, I might say like, I have a gentleman here and he says, he passed from a drug overdose and he wears bandanas and he likes this song.
Chris:
So you put the information out there like, this is what I’m hearing. This is what I’m seeing. Blah, blah, blah. Okay. All right, okay.
Christine:
And then the whole family would just point at one person.
Chris:
They’re like it’s her.
Christine:
Yeah.
Chris:
That’s wild.
Christine:
Yeah. So you have to learn how they work. Each soul works differently. So you have to kind of ask them like, okay, you going to show me pictures? Are we doing movies? Are you going to show me stuff? Like people that talk in different languages. Okay. So if your grandmother was from Italy and she didn’t know any English, she’s going to show me pictures. She’s going to show me pictures. So I’m going to see pictures and that’s how I’m going to communicate with her. And I might say like, she speaks Italian. So this is not going to be that easy because she doesn’t know English and the person goes yep. And I’m like, okay. And sometimes I’ll go, let’s go back to your childhood.
Christine:
It was funny. I was doing this event, this one time and the lady was a total nonbeliever, right. Total. And my husband was, I could see him cracking up and I’m like your dad is here. And she was like, yes, he is on the other side. And I said, did he have a convertible and did you guys used to go to like this place? And I even told her what the stools look like and they used to go there for ice cream and I even told her what the bowls and everything and her favorite flavor. And I go, is that correct? And she went, yeah.
Christine:
I mean she just, her face just, and now I’m going back to her childhood because this woman’s in her fifties. So I’m talking about when she’s six years old and I told her you’re six years old and she was like, that is correct. I don’t know how you know that, but that is correct.
Chris:
Right. Especially if you can span that many years in the past, you know what I’m saying? It’s not like it happened like two years ago. This is something that’s like a deep long way back detail. That’s so hard.
Christine:
And a big thing with me is I make them prove who they are. They have to prove to me who they are. They have to give me so much information that I know that person knows that it’s them. And I’ll say start at their childhood, tell me something from their childhood that nobody else knows-
Chris:
Right. So you can really solidify that. So you know. Yeah, that’s good. That’s important, right. Because some things can be, I always heard people like, oh man, they’re going to find things that are just so sort of generalized that it could pertain to anybody. And I always said, that’d be impossible as a business model because it would be obvious. I mean, and then I went and I had this incredible level of detail and that’s when I was just like, there’s just no way. I mean, come on. We could debate all day long on things, but there’s no debate and there’s no argument about what we were told about what happened in a very private situation. There’s just zero way that a person could ever know that without having to take a wild, random three guesses in a row and the odds of that hitting, I mean, there’s just no way.
Christine:
No way, no way.
Chris:
You would put yourself out there to be looked like such a phony, if all of those details were wrong. So that really changed it for me, it was the detail. It was that connection. Detail, it was really what matters.
Christine:
It’s got to be the detail. I did a show last year. And because of the reading I gave about this young gentleman that was killed like 25 years ago, they reopened the murder investigation.
Chris:
Really?
Christine:
Oh yeah. I told them what car was he in, who was in the car, where his body was, where they would find it, his pants. Because I said his pants, his pants are one material, but the pockets are another material. I described what he was wearing the day that he disappeared and he was killed.
Chris:
Do you do this a lot? Do you find like cold cases or things like that where people will come to you, family maybe or something. I wonder who, do cops come?
Christine:
Well, I have before helped, I found a missing person, actually a police officer had come to me for a reading about her family. And before she left, I said, hold on, I need to tell you something. And I said, there’s a lady that’s going to go missing. I said, she’s going to go missing in like a couple months, but you’re going to find her. And I said, she’s going to be really close to her house and she’s going to be in a field. She’s going to have scratches and borough marks on her, those pricklers on her feet. I said, she’s not going to have any shoes on. And I got a call two months later. Okay, you were right. She’s missing. I need your help. They found her in 24 hours, they found her in 24 hours.
Chris:
And that’s just because she happened to come to you for something else?
Christine:
For something else. And I have this uncanny way of seeing things that are going to happen that have not happened yet. It’s uncanny. I can show you text message after text message of people saying you were right. You were right.
Chris:
Wow.
Christine:
It’s uncanny.
Chris:
Yeah, that was one of the things also in that same reading that happened to me where the woman said to me, this is going to happen to you and when it does, I want you to call me, it’s going to be about six months to a year. I want you to call me and tell me when it does. And I was like, okay. And sure enough, I think it was around five or six months, exactly what you said happened. And I called her up and I’m like, I don’t know who you are. I don’t know what’s going on, but I am calling you out of respect because that is just incredible, whatever the hell just happened to me. I’m just looking at the time and in our last little bit, I want to talk about your store. I want to understand that.
Christine:
Okay.
Chris:
And so tell me about the store and is it just a natural progression of expanding on what you do and being able to provide more resources to that, anyone that might be interested in this sort of world?
Christine:
Well, it’s crazy because instead of just I could rent a little spot and just do readings. I was like Clifton Park doesn’t have a store where you can just go buy candles and you can get crystals and you can buy some jewelry and you can get incense and things like that. So I opened this store and people love it. And we have a lot of teenagers because teenagers are really getting into this now and they come in and I have one girl, every week she comes in, she buys like 10 different crystals. She just comes in and buys crystals once a week. And the joy that it brings them and I keep my prices super low to where stores around have kind of had to lower theirs because I’m kind of like the crystal should only cost the consumer $26, not 110.
Chris:
And you do your readings out of there too, or no? You’re you have a-
Christine:
I do. I do. I have a bunch of offices in the back.
Chris:
Okay.
Christine:
And the store is big. It’s called the Mind, Body, Spirit Center and it’s in Clifton Park.
Chris:
Okay.
Christine:
And I’m getting ready to open another store in about a month.
Chris:
Okay. And where is that? In Clifton Park as well or no? Different part?
Christine:
Nope.
Chris:
No?
Christine:
No.
Christine:
No.
Chris:
Okay. All right.
Christine:
Nope.
Chris:
So where if we want to find more information about you and services, like if I wanted to get a reading or whatever, I know you’re probably booked out a bunch. So where do people go and how can they find more information?
Christine:
You can go to intuitivemediumchristine with a ch .com, intuitivemediumchristine.com. And you can book your appointment online because now people have to put a deposit down, but you can book your appointment right there and you can pick your date and your time and everything right there.
Chris:
So I would say to everybody out there, who’s listening to this that is still in this camp of this is all BS and this is all crap. I would urge you all to give it a shot because I was that guy times 10 like I would laugh at this concept and I was completely redeemed. I was completely turned around and not only was I turned around, but I’m telling you right now, you could probably feel it. It genuinely changed me. And that is not to be taken lightly because I am a tough cookie to change. I’m very stubborn. And that one hour is something I will never forget. It completely altered me. So if anyone is out there, I urge you just try it, give it a shot.
Chris:
You really have nothing to lose. We spend money on a lot of things, why not put something towards something that can make you feel good or just give you a little hope or a little something, because right now, man, you need a little bit, we need something to look for. So thank you so much, Christine, for doing this.
Christine:
You’re very welcome.
Chris:
Thank you for your time. All of this stuff we talked, the link to your website, we’ll put in the show notes. For everyone listening, you can go directly to the website or if you’re on the Get Overit podcast page, there’ll be a link in the show notes. I want to thank Adam Claremont, who’s behind the screen here at Overit studios for helping produce this. Overitstudios.com for any information about him, the studio and this sort of setup here where we do this. Thanks to the audience for listening and watching. Don’t forget to please subscribe, tell your friends and leave us a review so we can also help other people get over it.